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| Pseudonymf | 2010-08-19 17:17 | |
 | Men detta: www.youtube.com/watc...re =channel Shiet - hur coolt var inte det?! | |
| Tinna | 2010-08-19 17:31 | |
 | Riktigt coolt, Nymf. :O :D | |
| onobond | 2010-08-19 18:32 | |
 | Har kört klippet ett par ggr o tittat på detaljer, ain't no fake! Sen letat andra klipp - pow wow wow - vilken pipa! Dessvärre förstärker klippet som Pseudonymf länkat till min tidigare uppfattning, jag har alltid tyckt att tandtråd är äckligt, och att plocka fram gamla mintringar med den...Muuuäääääähhhh ! Det som var riktigt kul däremot var det hispiga flabbet, som aldrig tog slut, och överreaktionen, som om killen kastat kniv mot juryn | |
| annabaloo | 2010-08-19 19:07 | |
 | Howie Mandel har bacillskräck, därav reaktionen :) | |
| ElectricEye - Ej medlem längre | 2010-08-19 19:41 | |
| Det är ju inte första gången en liten unge överraskar med en stor röst: www.youtube.com/watc...Cx hKtcqzdE | |
| Scarpetta - Ej medlem längre | 2010-08-19 20:19 | |
| Nej TS, det klippet är INTE fejk. | |
| Stenknäck | 2010-08-19 20:34 | |
 | Skulle inte förvåna mej om det är fejk. Amerikaner är mest fejk. | |
| le-lou | 2010-08-19 21:08 | |
 | Jo electric, har sett den tjejen tidigare och grym röst. Men på nåt sätt hörs (tycker jag iaf) det på vissa ställen mer att det är ett barn som sjunger. Den här Jackie låter så otroligt vuxen hela tiden att det är otroligt. Träsmak - ja jante, för det är ju verkligen jag hehe. Inte speciellt, utan jag tvivlade på klippets äkthet. När jag googlade på om hennes Americas Talent gojs framträdande så kom detta upp: www.microguy.net/201...pa ntomime/ Frågan är vad som är fejk.. | |
| le-lou | 2010-08-19 21:09 | |
| alltså, där står det att det ÄR hennes röst, men att hon inte sjöng live i programmet. Kanske är det så. | |
| le-lou | 2010-08-19 21:22 | |
| "Here is what probably happened and everyone can decide for themselves whether this was lip synching or not. Jackie met with probably one or two people from AGT and they decided on the song she would sing. Then they ordered a backtrack of music for that song to be created. Then they recorded her singing her song with the backtrack music. Why would they do it this way? Because they didn't want to risk having their 10-year old cash cow get nerves on a big stage and not perform well enough. When they had the backtrack made with her singing to the music they adjusted her entire singing track: pitch, tone of voice, and anything else they wanted to do to this track to ensure it would be viewed as an astounding performance that ended the program, which is also why she was scheduled to sing last. To be clear music technicians can make any singer sound great using digital recording technologies. They can take a white singer and make them sound like a black one. They can take a 10-year old girl like Jackie and make her sound like a 50 year old trained opera singer. They can take someone singing out of tune and put them in tune. They can take a male voice and make it sound like a female and vice versa. They can even do many of these adjustments in real time so no one will notice. What I think everyone heard was Jackie singing to her own pre-recorded backtrack - a backtrack that was completely enhanced and modified digitally to make her sound much better than she would have otherwise. I don't know if she actually sang along with her own voice on the backtrack or merely lip synched to it. If she didn't sing at all while on stage I would call that lip synching. And even if she did sing while on stage, if the backtrack was mostly what everyone heard because her mic was turned way down, than does it really matter if she did sing live on stage? Most all singers sing with a backtrack if there isn't a live band and/or backup singers to enhance their performance. So this is considered normal and why the Producer of AGT could claim with a straight face that Jackie wasn't lip synching. As long as she sang she wasn't really lip synching even if what everyone mostly heard was a digitally enhanced pre-recorded vocal track. And it wasn't as if AGT thought they were doing anything wrong because they all do this. Had it not been for a technical glitch no one would have caught or been able to prove that Ashley Siimpson lip synched a song LIVE on SNL back in 2004. Every singer lip synchs or sings to their own pre-recorded backtrack when performing in an outside stadium or in a large venue where acoustics can't be very well controlled. All of the singers on AGT can avail themselves of these technical services to enhance their performances and do. Whether they got the same treatment as Jackie did is another question. So when anyone claims they really heard Jackie sing, all they really heard is what the technicians wanted them to hear. I think this girl can sing okay - maybe even pretty darn good for a girl her age, but not nearly as good as what everyone heard. And probably not any better than thousands of young girls who have tried out for the role of Annie on Broadway and failed to get the part." Detta låter mycket mer troligt. | |
| le-lou | 2010-08-19 21:26 | |
| Missade: Also I have not claimed she couldn't sing and she probably sings quite well. So it wasn't as if AGT technicians created something out of nothing using recording gadgets. It would NOT have been possible to pull that off even though they might have gotten away with doing so for one performance and one performance only. So they obviously had someone they could work with who could sing well enough to where they could add a lot more and make it sound that much better. And they pulled it off and fooled you!! But fooling you was easy to do because they were able to fool lots of people. This controversy to me arose because we never got to see and hear Jackie perform at any AGY rehearsals and tryouts before the judges where she wouldn't have been allowed to use any backtrack. All of the other contestants had to do this that weren't entered because of a YouTube video and all the others had to go through several audition processes before they got to the point where backtracks were available to them - along with the stylists and choreographers, and props needed to create a stage presence. If there was an unfair advantage in this competition it seems to me this would be a serious one. As for any videos on YouTube of Jackie singing other songs, w/o knowing what equipment was used to create these videos, you can't claim to know what her real voice sounds like. The closest we know to what her real voice sounds like was when Howie asked her to sing a few notes on stage the following night. At least she wasn't singing to a backtrack but even then technicians could have been adjusting her pitch in real time while she sang those few notes. Yes, they can do that too." Sorry, men det var rätt bra skrivet så jag tyckte alla kunde läsa :D | |
| Jack Sanchez - Ej medlem längre | 2010-08-19 21:26 | |
| Vad tror ni om den här? www.youtube.com/watc...KG D39Y076Y | |
| le-lou | 2010-08-19 21:28 | |
| haha, kul var det iaf men det ser ju HELT vansinnigt ut. | |
| Jack Sanchez - Ej medlem längre | 2010-08-19 21:31 | |
| Publiken reser sig ju upp för att titta hur det gick så det kanske är sant fast det ser ju fake ut. | |
| ElectricEye - Ej medlem längre | 2010-08-19 21:37 | |
| Jag är benägen att hålla med le-lou: bruden verkar vara halv-fejk. | |
| KLuBBeR - Ej medlem längre | 2010-08-19 21:41 | |
| www.youtube.com/watc...re =related Fake? | |
| ElectricEye - Ej medlem längre | 2010-08-19 21:46 | |
| www.youtube.com/resu...e& amp;aq=0 Fejk? | |
| le-lou | 2010-08-19 21:55 | |
| Electric, DEN (kruger) filmen har vunnit priser tydligen. Den ger hur som haver goosebumps. Är det på riktigt (vilket jag tror) så är det en fantastisk liten film. Är det nån som känner till filmen där en turist går ut från sin bil på nån lejonsafari och blir uppäten inför familjen, som filmar....? Alltså, jag har sett den men det tvistades länge om den var fejk eller inte. Har för mig att den har blivit bevisad som fejk, och det stora som talar för det tycker jag själv är , hur troligt är det att man sitter kvar i bilen och FILMAR medan ens pappa blir uppäten liksom? Mycket obehaglig film hur som helst. | |
| le-lou | 2010-08-19 21:56 | |
| Klubber, jag tror din länk var på riktigt. Har hört talas om det där fenomenet, självexploderande ... eh djur. | |
| ElectricEye - Ej medlem längre | 2010-08-19 22:00 | |
| He he, klart att Krüger-filmen är på riktigt. Man skulle kunna säga att de där safariresenärerna fick valuta för sina pengar. Frågan är bara om de blev trodda när de kom hem: - Hur var safarin då? - Jovars, en buffelfamilj blev överfallen av lejon, sedan hade lejonen dragkamp med en krokodil om buffelkalven, sedan kom resten av buffelhjorden och spöade skiten ur lejonen - kastade upp dem i luften och lite så där - och så reste sig buffelkalven de hade haft dragkamp om och gick till mamma och pappa. Annars hände inget speciellt! | |
